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Gaining a L&D Qualification

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I started my CTP qualification this year, but unfortunately withdrew from the programme for various reasons, the main one being the standard & quality of the sessions at the College where I was studying.

This was a really hard decision to make as the content of the CTP on paper appeared to be exactly what I wanted, and I do believe that it was the standards of training at the College and not the course.

I am now trying to source an alternative course, however, the college had the monopoly in our area and am finding it hard to find an alternative provider.

I have been looking at some of the other options available TAP, CITOL etc, does anyone have experience of these and are they as 'highly regarded' as the CTP? My concern with the TAP qualification is that though it sounds fantastic, unfortunately my employer does not have a never ending training budget and each of the sections which cost about the same as the entire CTP only cover one aspect of the training cycle (ie delivery etc).

Any help would be appreciated if anyone has any experiences or alternative suggestions.

Amanda
Amanda Kerr

10 Responses

  1. CTP is most recognised though there is also an NVQ qualificatio
    Hi – I’ve found that CTP is the most recognised by employers and many haven’t heard of any other. Have you considered Distance learning to complete?

    There is also the NVQ route which you could consider, which could be done alongside your normal role….

    Hope this helps
    Sheena

  2. CTP and alternatives
    Amanda
    Sadly yours is not the only experience of this sort when using the cheaper and less credible suppliers of the CTP. Local Colleges are a mixed bunch (see https://www.trainingzone.co.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=161799) and personally I would like to see much stronger action taken to raise the calibre of deliverers.
    The alternatives you have mentioned are the main ones. They are good but are not as well known as CIPD qualifications. For more info see https://www.trainingzone.co.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=161233
    Can I please urge you to send your comments not just to the College but also to the CIPD.
    Best of luck in your search.
    Graham

  3. C&G
    I did a City & Guilds level 3 in Teaching Adults and am doing an NVQ 4 in Learning & Development, the latter being evidence/work-based rather than ‘studying’. Have you looked into either of these?

  4. My experiences
    Hi,
    I was lucky and got my crrent job with 10 years management experience without a training qualification. However, I am currently on my second year of Post grad Dip. in Human resource development. This seems to be the most recognised qualification out there when looking at job adverts although a lot say recognised training qual.
    I know CIPD run CTP as distance learning – have you tried them?
    Also look at Training Shop – they do small courses that can assist in your development http://www.thetrainingshop.co.uk.
    Fenman also run some good programmes – but are pricey.

    Good luck!

  5. PGCE
    I am in the same position – in that I’ve given up CIPD, as I just didn’t have the time to do the assignments. However, I do have a PGCE – Post Graduate Certificate in Education. This can also be approached without a degree – as a Certificate in Education.I did mine at our local college and the council education department paid my fees because the Government wants more teachers. It was a 2 year [part time] course – and is accepted everywhere. I am now qualified to teach/train anyone over 16. Good Luck!

  6. CTP a Good Experience
    I had a similar problem with a local college, they were rubbish, the tutor had no idea plus the group was huge, so I withdrew.

    I needed the qualification though to get promoted at work I looked around the big corporate providers, as my employer was happy to sponsor me, and decided on a company called DPG. I also checked out Malpas and Mol, but DPG seemed the most suited to my learning style and they only took 12 delegates on the course, which was better than the 23 on the college course. The other things I loved was only having to attend 1 day a month, not an evening every week or a 5 day block, plus they give out a set of open learning books that you get to keep and they are written specifically for the course.

    They were not the cheapest, about £2000, but I felt comfortable when they told me they guaranteed I would pass or refund my course fee (I don’t think anyone else does that). So worth the extra few quid. My tutor was great too, she was always helpful and willing to take my calls for help, even at weekends.

    I passed with a distinction although it was pretty tough going towards the end, but worth it as 2 months after I qualified I got the promotion I wanted. I would recommend the programme to any trainer who wants to get on in this profession, it is the industry standard whatever any one says about TAP and CITOL, most employers want CIPD.

    Give them a go http://www.dpgplc.co.uk I think their courses start in March & September.

    Good Luck

    Roger

  7. TAP
    Dear Amanda

    The CTP has existed largely unchanged its current format for many years and certainly retains a strong legacy position.

    However TAP qualifications are highly regarded across a wide range of sectors and employers are increasingly investing in them as their corporate standard.

    You can review a range of TAP Case Studies featuring major organisations at:

    http://www.trainingfoundation.com/publications/index.asp

    Regards

  8. CTP
    Amanda,
    I’m currently undertaking the CTP at my local college, and I’m having exactly the same experience. The trainer/teacher is rubbish. He doesn’t practice the ‘best methods of delivery’ that he preaches and hasn’t spent any time 1-2-1. I advise that you contact the CIPD – that’s what i intend to do.
    Do you know though, what the next stage would be after completion of the CTP?
    Good luck.

    Claire

  9. ITOL and The Learning Sanctuary
    Hi Amanda,

    If you haven’t found a new course yet, I highly recommend you visit the Institute of Training and Occupational Learning (ITOL) website.

    They offer a great range of accredited qualification programmes for trainers and training managers through their new partnership with The Learning Sanctuary.

    http://www.itol.org
    http://www.thelearningsanctuary.co.uk

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